Wednesday Jul 19, 2023

TROS 2: Audiovisual Acid Trip (Minutes 6-10 with Klaudia Amenábar)

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In minutes 6-10 of The Rise of Skywalker, Palpatine has a chat with Kylo Ren, Poe and Finn lose a game of Dejarik to Chewie, a spy gives the Resistance information, and the Falcon lightspeed skips to evade TIE fighters. Klaudia Amenábar of RuPalp's Podrace returns to the show to discuss the Resistance polycule, octatonic brass, Exegol sound design, and more!


  • 0:00 - Hello there!
  • 3:43 - Listening to the beginning of these minutes.
  • 8:21 - The "Palpatine" in Rey's theme.
  • 24:49 - Trio of characters interacting for the first time.
  • 28:31 - David Acord and Matthew Wood explaining the sound design of Exegol.
  • 40:11 - Exegol lightning compared to Force lightning.
  • 49:44 - Quibble about the physical descriptions of characters in Star Wars books.
  • 53:52 - The Rise of Skywalker polycule.
  • 1:01:07 - Octatonic planing horns.
  • 1:09:51 - Why do we hear the Emperor's theme when we see TIE fighters?
  • 1:17:54 - Rebel Fanfare (planing triads), March of the Resistance, lightspeed skipping.
  • 1:24:40 - John Williams loves/hates us (violinists).
  • 1:32:54 - SWMM Questionnaire

Things to Check Out:

Musical Themes:

  • Imperial March (Theme)
  • Kylo Ren A (Aggressive)
  • Emperor
  • March of the Resistance (A Section)
  • Rebel Fanfare

Where are we in the soundtrack?:

  • OST 2. "Journey to Exegol"
  • FYC 2. "Falcon Flight"



1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?

  • New: Poetic. Epic. Hopeful.
  • Previous: Poetic. Epic. Inspiring.

2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?

  • New: How are certain sound design choices made? Which decisions come from the producers vs. sound designers, etc? How is the sound design process different across the various types of Star Wars media?
  • Previous: The stories behind how various bits of music ended up in the films/shows. "How did that get there?"

3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?

  • New: TRIGUN STAMPEDE (anime series composed by Tatsuya Kato)
  • Previous: Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (composed by Joe Hisaishi)


Guest: Klaudia Amenábar


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