TROS 13: Oddly Romantic (Minutes 61-65 with Darth Choco and Element7)

Are all people on the Dark side repressed theater kids? What's that weird "wee!" sound during the Kylo/Rey duel? Do the strings represent Rey and brass represent Kylo in this scene? We discuss all of this and more in today's episode about minutes 61-65 of The Rise of Skywalker, featuring Darth Choco and Element7!

Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Hello there!
• 5:06 - Lore drop in the Force connect scene.
• 13:08 - What is this mysterious "weee!" sound?
• 19:37 - Oddly romantic music during Rey's traumatic childhood flashback (same music we hear before Ben and Rey kiss!)
• 26:34 - Beef with Ben's final line in the movie.
• 30:22 - "Weee!" speculation, part 2.
• 36:08 - Oboe teasing the Imperial March?
• 42:34 - Resonance pockets, anechoic chambers.
• 47:55 - John Williams string flourishes.
• 52:24 - Do the strings represent Rey and brass represent Kylo in this scene? Or is it the reverse?
• 1:05:42 - Breaking down Hux's (hammy) "I'm the spy" scene.
• 1:18:28 - Brief Main Theme when Poe looks at the Falcon.
• 1:25:47 - Tempo and rhythm of Kylo's footsteps.
• 1:28:24 - Comparing the creepy strings here (when Kylo is telling Rey about her lineage) to the creepy strings in ESB when the Emperor is telling Vader about Luke's lineage.
• 1:33:41 - How does Kylo know about the Dyad in the Force? Wanting more from Kylo's perspective in general.
• 1:41:50 - A very stately Anthem of Evil moment. Dystopian Sith royalty.
• 1:49:42 - Final thoughts about these minutes/the film.
• 1:56:30 - On ranking Star Wars films.
• 2:04:17 - SWMM Questionnaire

Things to Check Out:

• Anakin in The Rise of Skywalker (Element7 video) - https://youtu.be/0YlpJyGFVKY?si=Cx7Figl8mNzs2e81
• The Center of the Universe (Tulsa, Oklahoma) - https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-center-of-the-universe-tulsa-oklahoma
• Super Mario Bros. 3 - Airship Theme: https://youtu.be/Uh0OKW5cwVo?si=hXO5imh8b5IkLjp9
• Storytelling through Music in STAR WARS | Dyad in the Force 183: https://www.youtube.com/live/_IC6jJvSBdc?si=yITPb4h8IMo_OHCaon
• The Great Kamino Kaper (AOTC live reading): https://kaminokaper.com
• Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/

Musical Themes:

• 42. Kylo Ren B (Hesitant)
• 10a. Imperial March (Theme)
• 17. Emperor
• 43a. Kylo Ren C (Menacing)/First Order Bass Line
• 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase)
• 1a. Main Theme (A Section)
• 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive)
• 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section)

Where are we in the soundtrack?:

• FYC 9. "Hard to Get Rid Of"
• OST 10. "Join Me"
• FYC 10. "Join Me"

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STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE:

1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?

• Darth Choco: Classical. Timeless. Storytelling. (Previously: Hope. Redemption. Spirituality.)
• Element7: A major lift (Previously: Beyond the horizon)

2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?

• Darth Choco: The dance between emotion and utility when it comes to creating soundtracks. (Previously: The creation/engineering of new sounds.)
• Element7: Foley work--what goes into finding the right sound for something as futuristic as Star Wars. (Previously: Lightsaber sounds)

3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?

• Darth Choco: Pirates of the Caribbean (composed by Klaus Badelt and Hans Zimmer) and 28 Days Later (composed by John Murphy). (Previously: Pirates of the Caribbean)
• Element7: : Good Will Hunting (composed by Danny Elfman) and The Last Samurai (composed by Hans Zimmer). (Previously: The Last Samurai)

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Guests: Darth Choco and Element7

• Darth Choco on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@darthchoco
• Darth Choco on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DarthChoco
• Dyad in the Force podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@DyadintheForce
• Element7 on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_element7_

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